Do you think people are destined for certain roles?
February 18, 2011 Bird House Feeder
Let’s say there are archetypes of humanity: the artist (craftsman, or builder), the visionary (inventor, adventurer), the warrior (or hunter), the leader, the nurturer and the healer. They crave to create, to discover, to conquer/defend, power, to care for life, and to preserve life, respectively. They feel "right" when they do these things. They’re usually crossed (artist/visionary, warrior/leader, visionary/leader, healer/nurturer, etc.) My question to you is, do you think that all people, regardless of sex or race, are born to fill these niches or niche combinations? (Example: An artist/nurturer would be happy creating something like birdhouses, but an artist/visionary must make something shocking and new.) And that people become unhappy when forced into archetypes they aren’t suited for (Example: a warrior/leader building houses) or, are our preferences developed conciously (we decide to like ___, so we do?) Also, if you agree with the system, which niche combo are you?
Interesting answers so far, but I don’t think a person’s success must factor in to their desires because like someone said, success is half chance (it’s half skill as well, so if you don’t have the opportunity to develop in your supposed niche, you will suck even at your heart’s desire). Let’s say that untapped warrior I mentioned builds a decent house just because they’ve been doing it for years, but they still don’t like building. They’d rather be arguing at a debate, or learning to fight even though they’d be better at building than fighting at first. Surely some of you know the feeling of wishing you were anywhere but your job because you hate the work. You only stay with it because it’s all you know or you need the money. Otherwise, you’d be gone so fast there’d be skid marks on the floor to mark the occassion.
JOHN- I think I mispoke. I didn’t mean "destiny" exactly, only a strong pull towards a social role. Just because you fit a role doesn’t mean you’ll get it, only that the role you’re hardwired to fill is the only role that fulfills you. The forces at work in making slaves is that one group is stronger and looking for slaves. White people had guns, Africans didn’t. Egyptians were settled and had standing armies and the Hebrews were not as cohesive. They made their slaves farm and build but there were definitely leaders, warriors, artists, etc. in there. They just lived a life denied their nature. It’s possible, but it’s not pleasant.
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yes, i believe that people have ‘key traits’ somehow embedded in their system that develop their actions, reactions, thoughts, ideas, everything about them. one person could be a scientist, expressing traits of knowledge, solid facts, experimentation. or someone could have ‘core’ traits of a priest, which would be faith, loyalty, belief. i believe i am an adventurer. ive always had an extreme imagination, loved adventuring, and thrills/adrenaline rush.
yes, we all have a path that is pre determined..
it is simply the details of day to day life that differ…
Yes. Looks like I’m destined to answer silly questions.
Yeah, i agree with that logic. A sort of sixth sense of human belonging.
I’m definitely artist/visionary. Always thinking outside the box and I want to present it to the world.
i believe we owe half of all success (and failure) to fate.
so yes, i believe there is some predestined archetypes.
i am a healer. i knew that from a very young age.
Yes.
A person’s only obligation is to find his or her personal destiny. If there’s something that you want, it is because it originated from the soul of the world. If there’s something the you desire, the whole universe conspires to make it happen.
All destinies are written. And we ourselves are also the authors. Its a complex thing. Thats why its a mystery.
I know I’m an artist. I still have to find its ‘cross’.
I don’t think so. There are so many people in high school who are busy trying to figure out what they want to do, and the odds that they will pick the one thing that they are destined to do when they are so uncertain, I think is astronomical. Also, somebody has to do the jobs that nobody wants! I mean, do you ever hear a kid say "when I grow up, I want to be proctologist!"?
And then there’s people like me – good at pretty much everything, but great at almost nothing!
yes we all have a job to do. we are not met to lay around and be lazy. we have to keep the cash flow going in and out of the systems. if we aren,t happy with the job we,ve got, find one you like but keep going.
Great question! And I say yes, certain people are destined for "certain roles" However, my experiences have clearly demonstrated to me that some people are destined for evil, sadly. And some are clearly cheated of their true destiny. I know there are forces at work that even create whole races of slaves. Look at the Jews, Blacks, Mexicans, etc.
I would like you to explore this aspect of your question.
Peace
I don’t believe in ‘Destiny’ with a big ‘D’ but I believe some parts of our nature come through our genes – nature (eg artistic skill) but that most comes through nurture (ie we are the sum of all our experiences).
Therefore, I believe that, as we age, our choices do not diminish but that we tend to make more and more similar choices because of the preferences we have built up because of our experiences.
If we make decisions against these preferences we are unhappy.
My own? I believe the less I crave the happier I am so that I have chosen quality of life over money, pushbike over car, small house over mansion, simple pleasure over latest fads etc etc
Yes i do believe that we gravitate to certain roles in society, for we have certain needs to fulfill as people. I believe that the universe justifies all and for this reason all is equal. Just like there is good there is bad, and in the case of social roles all combinations of these roles must be present in order to have some type of order in this world. Yet,because there will always be outside forces pushing us towards somethings we do not desire ourselves, the world tends to be an imperfect place.
I would say that i am an artist visionary.
Greetings:
You asked whether there were certain roles people are born to fill, my answer–yes and no. You can rise to a particular circumstance of life, but experience prepares and decides how you will respond. Heisenberg in his book, Physics and Philosophy, argues that potential is embedded in the fabric of the universe. So to some extent we all carry with us the blueprint for freedom of choice, the trick is understanding our likes and dislikes and hopefully finetuning our desires into productive ideals.
Anyway, I personally think life allows you to experience all of the archetypes in some way or another, throughout your life. I know that I lead, I heal, I nurture, I fight, I create, and I invent… it’s all there. In each of us.
You just have to turn the light on…